Yep. A fictional humanoid monster from Lord of the Rings. It is relatively new. The traditional slur is Moskal, which refers to the Grand Duchy of Russia. It came into use as a slur in the 18-19th centuries. It refers to a small puppet character in traditional Ukrainian puppet shows. And of course, we have the reciprocal from Russians to Ukrainians of Khokhol, which is the cossack style haircut.
Immanuel Kant has called this sensus communis. One aspect of sensus communis is to learn about different standpoints of other people and take them into an account when thinking about our common living in the world. Hannah Arendt translated it as an enlarged mentality. What is, of course, interesting is another aspect of our Western heritage and that is the idea of the individual. There are (simplifying) two versions - one, the Anglo-Saxon, which is now the building block of the Western worldview, and that is built on the idea of an atomistic individual, traced to Hobbes and Locke. But we also have another version of the individual, and that is the social individual, which is could be argued e corporate also the idea to “embrace collective and conservative beliefs – holding that the good of the many outweighs the interest of the one”. This one can be traced to Hugo Grotius. It is not to say that these days your analysis is not correct. It is! It is to remind us that the history of ideas is not so simple and the basic plank of the so-called “Western values” was not always individualistic in the sense of a free floating atom.
Oh, boy - sorry. It should be: But we also have another version of the individual, which is the idea of the social individual. And this ‘version’, it is could be argued, incorporates also the idea to “embrace collective and conservative beliefs – holding that the good of the many outweighs the interest of the one”.
Thank you! It is wonderful to be able to discuss these aspects of our society! So many things to talk about when you are aware of the history of thinking.
Scott-Ritter... I do not agree with you on everything, but since you came out and told the tale of W and the WMD's, I have been a fan. Watching you on ask the inspector speaking about the Russian Samovar incident, and your reference to being Swatted, how appalling. Our country has lost its hinge pins, the doors are tumbling, we are in immense trouble... keep up the great work. Thank you.
I'd be interested to know if the people responsible for Scott being swatted have been held to account for their actions. Here in New South Wales it is a criminal offence carrying heavy fines and a maximum of three years in gaol.
Thanks, Kevin, for your insight into the worldviews of others. I work with immigrants, and it's by sitting down and speaking with an individual from another culture that you truly see how isolated and egocentric most Americans are. The questions that immigrants sometime ask are revealing as to where we need to start to make some drastic changes, IMO. Peace all!
Absolutely. I have lived in several different countries, and they are all unique. My article divides it by East and West, but that is only about 66% of the world, and there are even differences amongst that percentage. I could write about this topic many times over.
Maybe, but the metaphor wouldn't work as well. :) Good idea, but I don't think we need to shatter people's world views. Just open our minds to other point of views. But then, I guess breaking the glass would do that, wouldn't it? :)
Nietzsche did some good work on breaking down deity hindrances. I'm not as familiar with Jung other than people often use him to describe the Roman worldview.
Binaries are bullshit. Dichotomy is not an anthropic reality but path of least resistance (e.g. conformity, rules, peer pressure, threats, fear, and other external pressures) can make it a behavioral one. Refuse both binaries and dichotomy! We're better than that.
Dichotomy is useful for teaching differences to those who do not understand "big words" as easily. It is a given that all worldviews have pieces of all other perspectives. It is a matter of what is accentuated by a person or culture. But you can't argue that people don't group by general ideas.
Good article. I would add that languages spoken by individuals add to the perceptions of their "snow globes". The more "snow globes" you get to look into the better.
Absolutely, and thank you, Glenn. I have found languages to be very similar to worldviews. Take Italian and Romanian for instance. So similar, and so different - much like their cultures and worldviews.
Even with in a singular language say like English. As you mentioned above people who do not understand "big words" can have a completely different worldview to, for want of a better term, English speakers who do understand "big words". Also the use of trade jargon. I can talk "music" to another musician and they can understand exactly what I'm talking about whilst non-musician friends can't understand a word of what's just been said. I'm sure you have had similar experiences discussing "coding" with non-programmers present.
It would appear that their are "snow globes" with in "snow globes" and exposure to as many as possible can't be a bad thing.
Italian and Romanian is a good example of how two very closely related language "snow globes" can change and divert over time contributing to the differences in culture and worldview as you mention. I think it was Joseph Campbell, one of Jung's students, who described language as a road map. I think he would of very much appreciated your "snow globe" analogy.
You prompted a lot of thought and I look forward to reading more of your articles.
According to the historical record and contemporary data, it is impossible to effectively govern, police and defend a multicultural multiracial multireligious multidegeneracy society. Everything is going as planned, it is a planned collapse. Nationalism, correctly understood and presented, is a key to world peace and a cleaner natural environment 🕊️❤️🙏
I believe the first example you give is doable - the Russians have been doing it for eons. Though there are small collapses here and there, they still live actively in all of the spheres you mention. I would also hold that nationalism has just as many problems. It is what leads to wars, as it plays to the human nature of "I'm better than you."
@ Cultural Identity and Worldviews! Im watching the Sun. morning news shows .. . and I think the Democrats and Republicans are eating each other over TS/SCI classified documents. Live! Ugly Raw Cannibalism.
As the ruler of a small country in the dark heart of Appalachia, ground zero in America's 'war on poverty', I know well the 'cultural identity' of My peoples. (see also @ Beverly Hillbillies). Then one day I was shooting at some food and up through the ground came a bubbling crude. So I loaded up the truck and moved to the Big Apple - Manhattan: the cultural nerve centre of the Universe - movie stars, swimming pools and everything!
I am Spartacus.
Nowadays, my views have necessarily expanded to include Europe, Asia, Russia, Ukraine and Tolstoy's War and Peace. A social being who represents the 'highest reality in the intellectual and moral order that we can know by observation - I mean society . .. In so far as he belongs to society, the individual transcends himself, both when he thinks and when he acts.' ~ noted French cultural anthropologist Emile Durkheim
* I came here this morning fully prepared and willing to tear my fav Weapos Inspector a new one concerning Scott's recent vapidly outrageous comments about 9/11 'conspiracy theories' @ Ask the Inspector .. . and 'snatch the pebble from his hand' (h/t Kung Fu).
The U.S. ***response*** to the events of 9/11 - a global war on 'terror' (gwot) - is no G-damn 'conspiracy theory'.
Briefly, 15 of the 19 'bad guys' were Saudi nationals; U.S. invaded Afghanistan to 'get' mastermind bad guy OBL, another Saudi national, later 2011 killed in Pakistan; <B>anybody</B> who believes the much revised NIST report on Bldg. #7 - collapse due to single column (#78) failure due to debris/office furniture fire - brought that building down don't know what they're talking about.
p.s. I have Major issues/concerns with the much-redacted 9/11 Congressional Report as well.
"Reputation, Reputation, Reputation! O' I have lost my reputation and what remains is bestial"
I don't think the US empire's actions are determined by a Western worldview of liberalism. That's just a smokescreen, to fool people too busy or too emotionally infantile to think things through. They really just want to enforce their control over the world, and will do anything they can devise to further that goal. If they pretend to care about LBGTQ+, it's for that reason alone: to motivate a certain segment of the populace in a certain way. But they clearly don't care about any "values" in and of themselves. Certainly not as shown in their actions.
"And now there are only two ways out: to slide into a world war and a nuclear conflict, or to start the process of detente again, for which it is necessary to take into account the interests of all parties," he said. "But for this, it is necessary to recognize politically that Russia has interests, that they must be taken into account in the construction of a new detente."
"And most importantly, play honestly, do not deceive anyone, do not let in fog and do not try to make money on someone else's blood," Medvedchuk added. "But if the world political system is not capable of elementary decency, blinded by pride and its own mercantile interests, then even more difficult times await us."
*Medvedchuk's Ukrainian citizenship has been revoked.
As far as I can tell, the Ukrainian derogatory term of Russians as 'Orcs' comes from the movie 'Lord of the Rings'?
*which, I think, would be a relatively 'new' phenomenon in the historical cultural relationship between Ukraine and Russia.
Yep. A fictional humanoid monster from Lord of the Rings. It is relatively new. The traditional slur is Moskal, which refers to the Grand Duchy of Russia. It came into use as a slur in the 18-19th centuries. It refers to a small puppet character in traditional Ukrainian puppet shows. And of course, we have the reciprocal from Russians to Ukrainians of Khokhol, which is the cossack style haircut.
yes, it does. lean brain cannot create anything on its own.
Good thoughts, Libor. I've seen a similar comparison to Lord of the Rings somewhere recently, but I can't remember where.
Immanuel Kant has called this sensus communis. One aspect of sensus communis is to learn about different standpoints of other people and take them into an account when thinking about our common living in the world. Hannah Arendt translated it as an enlarged mentality. What is, of course, interesting is another aspect of our Western heritage and that is the idea of the individual. There are (simplifying) two versions - one, the Anglo-Saxon, which is now the building block of the Western worldview, and that is built on the idea of an atomistic individual, traced to Hobbes and Locke. But we also have another version of the individual, and that is the social individual, which is could be argued e corporate also the idea to “embrace collective and conservative beliefs – holding that the good of the many outweighs the interest of the one”. This one can be traced to Hugo Grotius. It is not to say that these days your analysis is not correct. It is! It is to remind us that the history of ideas is not so simple and the basic plank of the so-called “Western values” was not always individualistic in the sense of a free floating atom.
Oh, boy - sorry. It should be: But we also have another version of the individual, which is the idea of the social individual. And this ‘version’, it is could be argued, incorporates also the idea to “embrace collective and conservative beliefs – holding that the good of the many outweighs the interest of the one”.
I actually knew what you meant, Lubica - great minds think alike :)
I agree completely.
*and that is why I am here :)
Thank you! It is wonderful to be able to discuss these aspects of our society! So many things to talk about when you are aware of the history of thinking.
Scott-Ritter... I do not agree with you on everything, but since you came out and told the tale of W and the WMD's, I have been a fan. Watching you on ask the inspector speaking about the Russian Samovar incident, and your reference to being Swatted, how appalling. Our country has lost its hinge pins, the doors are tumbling, we are in immense trouble... keep up the great work. Thank you.
I'd be interested to know if the people responsible for Scott being swatted have been held to account for their actions. Here in New South Wales it is a criminal offence carrying heavy fines and a maximum of three years in gaol.
Sad to hear.
did not know it is so bad.
I understand
Thanks, Kevin, for your insight into the worldviews of others. I work with immigrants, and it's by sitting down and speaking with an individual from another culture that you truly see how isolated and egocentric most Americans are. The questions that immigrants sometime ask are revealing as to where we need to start to make some drastic changes, IMO. Peace all!
Absolutely. I have lived in several different countries, and they are all unique. My article divides it by East and West, but that is only about 66% of the world, and there are even differences amongst that percentage. I could write about this topic many times over.
We need not just to put this snow globe down Kevin. We must break it in small pieces.
Maybe, but the metaphor wouldn't work as well. :) Good idea, but I don't think we need to shatter people's world views. Just open our minds to other point of views. But then, I guess breaking the glass would do that, wouldn't it? :)
Absolutely correct!!!. We are already on a stage that requires breaking down this rosy globe. There is no other way unfortunately. Too late.
Frederick Nietzsche and Carl Jung have both said the same thing.
Nietzsche did some good work on breaking down deity hindrances. I'm not as familiar with Jung other than people often use him to describe the Roman worldview.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0959354316645411
Binaries are bullshit. Dichotomy is not an anthropic reality but path of least resistance (e.g. conformity, rules, peer pressure, threats, fear, and other external pressures) can make it a behavioral one. Refuse both binaries and dichotomy! We're better than that.
Dichotomy is useful for teaching differences to those who do not understand "big words" as easily. It is a given that all worldviews have pieces of all other perspectives. It is a matter of what is accentuated by a person or culture. But you can't argue that people don't group by general ideas.
Good article. I would add that languages spoken by individuals add to the perceptions of their "snow globes". The more "snow globes" you get to look into the better.
Absolutely, and thank you, Glenn. I have found languages to be very similar to worldviews. Take Italian and Romanian for instance. So similar, and so different - much like their cultures and worldviews.
Even with in a singular language say like English. As you mentioned above people who do not understand "big words" can have a completely different worldview to, for want of a better term, English speakers who do understand "big words". Also the use of trade jargon. I can talk "music" to another musician and they can understand exactly what I'm talking about whilst non-musician friends can't understand a word of what's just been said. I'm sure you have had similar experiences discussing "coding" with non-programmers present.
It would appear that their are "snow globes" with in "snow globes" and exposure to as many as possible can't be a bad thing.
Italian and Romanian is a good example of how two very closely related language "snow globes" can change and divert over time contributing to the differences in culture and worldview as you mention. I think it was Joseph Campbell, one of Jung's students, who described language as a road map. I think he would of very much appreciated your "snow globe" analogy.
You prompted a lot of thought and I look forward to reading more of your articles.
According to the historical record and contemporary data, it is impossible to effectively govern, police and defend a multicultural multiracial multireligious multidegeneracy society. Everything is going as planned, it is a planned collapse. Nationalism, correctly understood and presented, is a key to world peace and a cleaner natural environment 🕊️❤️🙏
I believe the first example you give is doable - the Russians have been doing it for eons. Though there are small collapses here and there, they still live actively in all of the spheres you mention. I would also hold that nationalism has just as many problems. It is what leads to wars, as it plays to the human nature of "I'm better than you."
Dear Kevin,
@ Cultural Identity and Worldviews! Im watching the Sun. morning news shows .. . and I think the Democrats and Republicans are eating each other over TS/SCI classified documents. Live! Ugly Raw Cannibalism.
As the ruler of a small country in the dark heart of Appalachia, ground zero in America's 'war on poverty', I know well the 'cultural identity' of My peoples. (see also @ Beverly Hillbillies). Then one day I was shooting at some food and up through the ground came a bubbling crude. So I loaded up the truck and moved to the Big Apple - Manhattan: the cultural nerve centre of the Universe - movie stars, swimming pools and everything!
I am Spartacus.
Nowadays, my views have necessarily expanded to include Europe, Asia, Russia, Ukraine and Tolstoy's War and Peace. A social being who represents the 'highest reality in the intellectual and moral order that we can know by observation - I mean society . .. In so far as he belongs to society, the individual transcends himself, both when he thinks and when he acts.' ~ noted French cultural anthropologist Emile Durkheim
* I came here this morning fully prepared and willing to tear my fav Weapos Inspector a new one concerning Scott's recent vapidly outrageous comments about 9/11 'conspiracy theories' @ Ask the Inspector .. . and 'snatch the pebble from his hand' (h/t Kung Fu).
The U.S. ***response*** to the events of 9/11 - a global war on 'terror' (gwot) - is no G-damn 'conspiracy theory'.
Briefly, 15 of the 19 'bad guys' were Saudi nationals; U.S. invaded Afghanistan to 'get' mastermind bad guy OBL, another Saudi national, later 2011 killed in Pakistan; <B>anybody</B> who believes the much revised NIST report on Bldg. #7 - collapse due to single column (#78) failure due to debris/office furniture fire - brought that building down don't know what they're talking about.
p.s. I have Major issues/concerns with the much-redacted 9/11 Congressional Report as well.
"Reputation, Reputation, Reputation! O' I have lost my reputation and what remains is bestial"
I suggest you debate Scott on Ask the Inspector. Send a request via this site.
I may do that.
*I'm a little shy .. . but it don't last long ;)
https://youtu.be/U17CGL-EW3o
Great article. We Western people better learn quick. Great documentary series East Meets West helped me see how little I know. Watched it a few times.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1789687041403147&set=gm.5279346108832540&idorvanity=436083526492180
When did zionism replace the patriotism of the anglo saxon cultural dominance of the west that you refer to in your article? https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2117982315078445&set=a.120948924781804
I don't think the US empire's actions are determined by a Western worldview of liberalism. That's just a smokescreen, to fool people too busy or too emotionally infantile to think things through. They really just want to enforce their control over the world, and will do anything they can devise to further that goal. If they pretend to care about LBGTQ+, it's for that reason alone: to motivate a certain segment of the populace in a certain way. But they clearly don't care about any "values" in and of themselves. Certainly not as shown in their actions.
We all have something different in common.
"And now there are only two ways out: to slide into a world war and a nuclear conflict, or to start the process of detente again, for which it is necessary to take into account the interests of all parties," he said. "But for this, it is necessary to recognize politically that Russia has interests, that they must be taken into account in the construction of a new detente."
"And most importantly, play honestly, do not deceive anyone, do not let in fog and do not try to make money on someone else's blood," Medvedchuk added. "But if the world political system is not capable of elementary decency, blinded by pride and its own mercantile interests, then even more difficult times await us."
*Medvedchuk's Ukrainian citizenship has been revoked.